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Post by Wozzy on May 7, 2024 21:27:01 GMT -5
you said the same thing last year in May Just about every thing that could pass as a prediction made by me since I began talking football online in the early 90’s started or finished with “assuming health.”Health is the great equalizer in sports and especially football. Learn the game.
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Post by Wozzy on May 7, 2024 9:13:28 GMT -5
Did you just write that? Only one phase to fix? 🤣🤣 That’s half of the football team!! And that’s all?? Yeah, no big deal…you just need to find a QB (most important position in sports), three receivers, an offensive line, tight end, third down back, backup running back, offensive coordinator, QB coach, receiver’s coach. Just one phase though, oh and it’s the worst offense in NFL. No big deal. Bwahaha! Thanks for that. Another emotional outburst, you should probably get your hormones checked out by a professional… think you’re experiencing some kind of manopause.
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Post by Wozzy on May 7, 2024 9:10:55 GMT -5
Laughable, you’ve gone off the rails. He’s my avatar and I defend him nine times out of ten. But Christ, even he’d laugh at your assessment of some of his picks. And did you really say…Bill Belichick left the team in excellent shape, the only part that needs to be rebuilt is the offense? Uhm…hello!! That’s half the damn team!! My lord! Thank you for that! We appreciate that you are already in rare form. When they have 4 out of 5 offensive linemen, at least a few WR’s, one of the better TE’s in the league and a stud RB…. yeah, that’s not “half the team.”The collaboration station needed a QB of the future, a left tackle and some WR depth… that’s not half the team. “No talent,” you only play one note on that flute.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 20:16:36 GMT -5
Wolf is the GM, they have to jump through DEI hoops to make it official.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 13:35:35 GMT -5
but you have denied that vehemently, unless it fits your agenda. Except it wasn’t just wickersham, and what I accused him of was taking a truth and inflating it into soap operatic garbage. Kraft announced the creation of the collaboration station, he also told the world the future was Mayo, even if some of us refused to believe it. I have no agenda, I root for the laundry.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 13:32:49 GMT -5
you blaming poor team culture on a 2nd year player is laughable. especially when it was dying before he even joined the team get your head out of Bill's arse, both of them I didn’t blame culture deterioration on Mac, I blamed it on Kraft insisting on Mac after he proved he sucked terribly. If your boss will accept poor play from one, he’ll have to accept it from all.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 12:05:57 GMT -5
What proof do you have that Kraft forced BB to play Mac ? BB could have told Kraft to go pound sand and easily gotten away with it !!! It was reported by multiple reporters who Rkarp said were legit.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 12:03:04 GMT -5
Cam, Hoyer, Stiddy, Mac and Zippy all missed out on the Pats old "culture", and they all suffered for it. 100% if Mac had a different offense, and better OL/WR play, he would have thrived. he showed so in college and his rookie year. I assume he will do so again in the nfl. Hoyer, Stiddy, Zappe were all backups… not part of the conversation other than Zappe probably should have been starting over Mac. Mac sucked and had a total meltdown while you were telling us he was good. Your silly.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 11:12:46 GMT -5
the culture sucked when Cam was playing but go ahead and keep blaiming the young QB Cam was a washed old guy with two surgeries on his throwing shoulder who played on a terrible 2020 roster and got paid 500K guaranteed because they were broke. Mac was a fresh young rookie coming from a college superteam and who got a very good 2021 roster. Joe Burrow or Herbert didn’t fold under less than ideal conditions, Jonnu and Agholor had resurgences on their new teams post-Mac… but you think he would have made it if not for Bill? Sounds legit….
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 9:22:07 GMT -5
Where was the culture post Tom? The defense was top of the league, the culture didn’t change. It also needed to be reset after 2019 when they tore it all down and started over. Culture doesn’t make a terrible player like Mac play well, the culture also became subverted by ownership when they started meddling in 2021 and started undermining the coaching staff. Forcing BB to play Mac, even after all his teammates realized he sucks is a great way to destroy culture. If other players realize there are no consequences for sucking and Mac can simply buddy up to Kraft to keep his job spoils any attempt to set a new culture. You’re in denial, you also have a BB hating agenda so you’d deny the existence of birds if you thought it made him look bad.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 8:34:16 GMT -5
Players don’t set the level of accountability, players who are leaders enforce the rules and standards provided by coaches. The notion that Patriot players all got up on the media dais and spoke in unison like robots just appeared out of nowhere is laughable.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 8:30:15 GMT -5
your confusion is in not realizing there were two different Patriot cultures the past 24 years. with Tom and with out Tom. the last year or two, the team splintered, the coaches could not fix any of the issues, and we saw discipline and accountability on the field pretty much non existent. Listen to Ty Law on the Edelman podcast and learn something… you might, but won’t. When Brady arrived at 21 years old and won a ring he was not a team leader, he was a young punk who leaders like McGinest, Bruschi, Law and others had to school. You pretending a child 6th round pick arrived and set the culture… 🤡
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 7:39:16 GMT -5
This discussion reminds me of the Charlie Tuna commercial. Do you want tuna with good taste or tuna that tastes good? Everything tastes great when you’re winning. I don’t have much interest in culture. Nor chemistry. Culture to me is art museums and the opera and I personally have very questionable culture. But, I know this…if you’re losing and everyone is happy then your culture ain’t right. Just about every free agent who joined the Patriots talks at some point how the locker room was different than the loser franchise most of them came from or played for in the past… saying a winning culture doesn’t exist is nonsense.
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 7:29:06 GMT -5
You have to understand, he’s hypersensitive to anything Bill Belichick. If I were to say that I didn’t care for my neighbor Bill Smith…he’d consider that an insult to Bill Belichick because they share the same first name. If my neighbor Bill traded in his Toyota Tundra for a BMW X5, and I questioned the decision because it immediately blew a transmission and has been in the shop everyday since - he’d show me that the BMW had a better 0-60 time, quarter mile and higher horsepower to weight ratio. Because it wouldn’t be a bad decision if Bill made it (Mr. Smith). You’re saying good players suck simply because BB employed them… but I’m overly sensitive about BB. The guy is living rent free in your head… 😆 Show me on this doll where BB touched you?
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Post by Wozzy on May 6, 2024 7:26:41 GMT -5
Did you understand what I wrote? I did not say coaching does not matter. I actually am saying coaching is important, and what people have been describing is about coaching not about culture. There is a difference between coaching and culture. People are conflating the two. Now, there is overlap; I give you that. I will use your example to illustrate. IMO the way that you are characterizing BB's film session does not do justice to the substance he brought in those coaching sessions. His mantra was "do your job". There are many coaches who bust their players' balls. They hold their players accountable in their own ways. But I highly doubt that BB showing JE how he failed to block was meant to embarass him. BB did it in a spirit of making clear his expectation. He did it in front of everyone, because it was an expectation that he put on everyone. JE being embarassed about it is just collateral effect of BB trying to get everyone on the same page on an execution detail that many coaches would not go over. McGuinest, Bruschi and Law enforcing the rules did not happen until after the first SB win. They were not doing that during the 2001 season. In 2001 those players did not yet understand what their stewardship role could be. Winning the SB made them taste something they wanted to have again. The winning is what made them realize they could play a bigger role than just playing their position. Your mention of Coughlin outscheming BB. In other words, Coughlin outcoached BB. Coughlin did not outculture BB. Also saying Eli did not win without Coughlin is proof of culture being the key to their success is logically impaired. 1) Coughlin was still there when Eli did not win for four seasons after their SB46 win. Did culture leave the team in 2012? 2) Culture is persistent. It does not break down after one person leaves -- even someone as important to the organization as Coughlin was. 3) NYG's lack of success after coughlin left is not because of a change of culture. It was more because a lot of football knowledge left with him. Coaching sets culture, it doesn’t just appear on its own. Coaching is culture.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 22:05:31 GMT -5
That's not culture. That is just largely driven by the difference between being good and being bad at what they do. Often it is about players not knowing what to do and/or when to do (situations) whatever needs to be done. It could be players not having the physical ability to do what is called for. It could be driven by coaches' lack of knowledge. Or inadequacies in diagnosing what's causing problems. Or a function of inability to communicate what needs to be done and/or describe when to do. Again, those are symptoms of bad coaching... not bad culture. There are many ball-busting coaches. We just never know about it, or do not correlate their ball busting with winning because they have not won. And they lost the SB to NYG twice. In those two games I saw the Pats defense gassed. Coaching instills culture, culture is coaching. You saying it doesn’t matter or is overrated is the same as saying coaching doesn’t matter. Accountability matters. Good coaches win. Watch the recent Julian Edelman interview where he explains how BB’s film sessions went, where Bill put on tape of mistakes from the last game played. Jules said you didn’t want your teammates realizing you failed to block on a given play or screwed up. There was also a culture clearly on those early Patriot teams when Tom was just a pup, players like Willie McGinest, Bruschi and Law enforced the rules, they did it so the coaches usually didn’t have to. You can say all you want this is overrated or doesn’t exist, it does, this is evident in free agents from other teams who joined the Patriots and said it was unlike other teams they’d been with, they said they never saw the head coach ripping the star QB in practices. The Giants won two rings with Tom Coughlin, and they simply out schemed the Patriots by keeping Tom and the offense on the sidelines watching or forcing the games only turnovers. Sure culture doesn’t matter, which is why Eli Manning never won dick without Coughlin.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 18:15:26 GMT -5
Culture is doing things the right way versus the wrong way. There are some strong vets in that locker room to ensure some continuity from the previous regime, bringing in Brissett was a good move on offense as well… he knows how to prepare and runs a clean operation.
Bad culture is visible in penalties and mistakes, it’s visible in teams that despite having good/great talent tend to fade every offseason because they believe their own press clippings.
Everyone hated BB busting their balls, but you never saw a gassed Patriot team during that era.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 18:02:56 GMT -5
What he doesn't offer in speed and agility he offers in power and intimidation. Only DL's will feel confident in tackling him. These speed LB's are smaller than he is. Same size the max. Devin White is a similar weight to him and ran a 4.4 forty and has Deebo type agility. Keion White is 280 pounds ran the same 4.7 forty this kid did. You need to readjust your perception of athleticism. He’s a good not great athlete entering a league full of great athletes. This isn’t college anymore, this is the best of the best.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 15:35:59 GMT -5
Not so, the defense is good enough to win games, and hopefully will be better still with Judon and Gonzalez playing The offense BB left behind was literally the worst in the league, with major holes everywhere except RB, and maybe TE…… N’Keal WAS awful by any objective standard, as was Mac Jones the last 2 years The offense BB left behind will require a multi year rebuild and…….. I personally am not sold on Drake Maye, I truly hope I end up being wrong. I would have preferred they trade down and focus on LT first, then receiver………but here we are. I seriously doubt Maye can come in and win an open QB competition this summer against Brissett. If Brissett starts the season, it’s hard to see how or why the Patriots would play Maye, except maybe last one or 2 games of season to set up next season… We are in for another losing season, best possible outcome is to see the offense gel in the 2nd half of the season. Then the Patriots can see what offensive gaps are left, using all the FA money they have to lure better talent, especially knowing there is a QB of the future in place, and use the 25 draft to round out the offensive rebuild The collaboration station had one phase of football to fix... offense. They had the third overall pick, 8 total picks at the top of the round, the third most cap space in the NFL to start the offseason and currently the most after bringing back all their own priority free agents. If the O-Line is healthy they're returning 4 out of 5 starters, potentially 3 out of 5 if Strange starts the year on PUP, but they had two solid backups for Strange and David Andrews there already in Mafi and Jake Andrews. In short, it shouldn't take them long and they don't need a bunch of excuses from people who are just happy that Bill's gone. If they fail it won't be because they inherited a mess, it will be because they suck at their jobs. Brissett over Mac alone should double their win total.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 15:28:56 GMT -5
Maybe they will use him like Deebo then. Would hate to waste that Yac ability. You're comparing a Ford F-150 in Jaheim Bell, to a Porsche 911 in Deebo and suggesting they're in anyway similar. Jaheim Bell
6-2 241 4.61 Forty 35.0 Vert 124 Broad Deebo Samuel
5-11 214 4.48 Forty 15 Bench 39.0 Vert 122 Broad 4.14 Shuttle 7.03 Cone In a speed/agility race... Deebo would blow the doors off Bell. Bell had better be able to block and play special teams first... they have substantially better athletes to catch and run. He was taken in the 7th round dude, you need to come back to earth.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 14:50:21 GMT -5
First off, you mentioning some dumb workout video with two dudes in yoga pants tickling each other means nothing. Doesn’t change the fact that N’Keal Harry couldn’t get open vs my grandmother. He had no ability to beat press coverage and get off the line with any sort of quickness and he couldn’t change direction without almost coming to a compete stop. I know it makes you upset that every time he’d be thoroughly covered by some third stringer you’d post his 40 time and we’d all laugh and call him the out of the league bust that he is, but you need to get over that. Maybe join a hot yoga class or something and workout with N’Keal…tell him how much you believe in his 40 time compared to weight ratio. As for Mac, his arm sucks. It’s no secret (well maybe to you)…tough to make “good decisions” when you throw the ball like someone coming off post opp anesthesia, as the ball is fluttering in the air like a soft fluffy pillow. You never did understand that. You really don’t understand this stuff, do you? You just puke up 40 times and think Bill Belichick is the reason we won for 20 years straight while we had the best QB of all time saving the day. And it hurts. I’m sorry but we’re past the point of you needing to get over it. Try to focus. Again... this is just another hyperbolic emotional outburst with no real substance. But we get it... everything BB left behind is horrible, talentless and bad so we should give Kraft and the collaboration station about a decade or so to fix it, and if they don't it will still be Bill's fault.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 14:46:56 GMT -5
Isn't a 6-3 fullback too tall? Jaheim Bell was measured twice, first at the combine, then at the FSU pro day... both times he measured 6'2" tall. He also played FB a large portion of his time in college at South Carolina, he rushed for more yards than had receiving yards his final season there. If he carves out a role, it will be as Freediro say... similar to what the 49ers do with Kyle Juszczyk. He's probably not going to rack up a ton of yardage, but he can still become very productive at that position.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 9:56:33 GMT -5
Jaheim Bell will be more productive than Baker, imo. Who's with me? Bell will be a fullback, Baker will be a WR… “production” will look completely different for both.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 9:50:50 GMT -5
Wait, so someone that can’t lift like muscle head DK Metcalf is the formula you use to determine a guys ability to make it in the NFL? That’s laughable. Meanwhile you ignore his inability to run routes, get open, separate, and beat the press at the line…all because his draft measurables were good. It’s hilarious. You're the same guy that told us how good Mac Jones arm was for three years, ignoring his talent deficiencies…you can’t blame “heart”, or his work ethic on this one. No, N’Keal saying “I can’t” before he even tries to lift is why he failed. He’s soft. I told you how good Mac Jones arm talent was? That’s another lie by you… you’re on a roll. If you have to lie to push your nonsense it’s probably time to tap out. I said Mac’s arm is no less weak than Kirk Cousins or other similar QB’s… he didn’t fail because his arm wasn’t strong enough, he failed because he made stupid decisions. Again…you argued we had “no talent” back in 2014, 2016 and 2018. You said the defense was too old and slow. You blame “talent” or a lack of athleticism for everything, brains, execution, scheme or coaching… none of this matters at all. It’s a bad take but one we see often. Again… the negative nancy’s are unhinged and we have zero talent again… none.
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Post by Wozzy on May 4, 2024 9:30:27 GMT -5
Slye is a good player to bring in to push Ryland… similar to Folk but with a stronger leg. He hasn’t been consistent, but when he’s “on” he has been solid.
There’s no BB here to pressure the kicker in practice and build confidence, let’s see what the collaboration station can do as coaches.
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