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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 18:15:26 GMT -5
Culture is doing things the right way versus the wrong way. There are some strong vets in that locker room to ensure some continuity from the previous regime, bringing in Brissett was a good move on offense as well… he knows how to prepare and runs a clean operation.
Bad culture is visible in penalties and mistakes, it’s visible in teams that despite having good/great talent tend to fade every offseason because they believe their own press clippings.
Everyone hated BB busting their balls, but you never saw a gassed Patriot team during that era.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 18:02:56 GMT -5
What he doesn't offer in speed and agility he offers in power and intimidation. Only DL's will feel confident in tackling him. These speed LB's are smaller than he is. Same size the max. Devin White is a similar weight to him and ran a 4.4 forty and has Deebo type agility. Keion White is 280 pounds ran the same 4.7 forty this kid did. You need to readjust your perception of athleticism. He’s a good not great athlete entering a league full of great athletes. This isn’t college anymore, this is the best of the best.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 15:35:59 GMT -5
Not so, the defense is good enough to win games, and hopefully will be better still with Judon and Gonzalez playing The offense BB left behind was literally the worst in the league, with major holes everywhere except RB, and maybe TE…… N’Keal WAS awful by any objective standard, as was Mac Jones the last 2 years The offense BB left behind will require a multi year rebuild and…….. I personally am not sold on Drake Maye, I truly hope I end up being wrong. I would have preferred they trade down and focus on LT first, then receiver………but here we are. I seriously doubt Maye can come in and win an open QB competition this summer against Brissett. If Brissett starts the season, it’s hard to see how or why the Patriots would play Maye, except maybe last one or 2 games of season to set up next season… We are in for another losing season, best possible outcome is to see the offense gel in the 2nd half of the season. Then the Patriots can see what offensive gaps are left, using all the FA money they have to lure better talent, especially knowing there is a QB of the future in place, and use the 25 draft to round out the offensive rebuild The collaboration station had one phase of football to fix... offense. They had the third overall pick, 8 total picks at the top of the round, the third most cap space in the NFL to start the offseason and currently the most after bringing back all their own priority free agents. If the O-Line is healthy they're returning 4 out of 5 starters, potentially 3 out of 5 if Strange starts the year on PUP, but they had two solid backups for Strange and David Andrews there already in Mafi and Jake Andrews. In short, it shouldn't take them long and they don't need a bunch of excuses from people who are just happy that Bill's gone. If they fail it won't be because they inherited a mess, it will be because they suck at their jobs. Brissett over Mac alone should double their win total...
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 15:28:56 GMT -5
Maybe they will use him like Deebo then. Would hate to waste that Yac ability. You're comparing a Ford F-150 in Jaheim Bell, to a Porsche 911 in Deebo and suggesting they're in anyway similar. Jaheim Bell
6-2 241 4.61 Forty 35.0 Vert 124 Broad Deebo Samuel
5-11 214 4.48 Forty 15 Bench 39.0 Vert 122 Broad 4.14 Shuttle 7.03 Cone In a speed/agility race... Deebo would blow the doors off Bell. Bell had better be able to block and play special teams first... they have substantially better athletes to catch and run. He was taken in the 7th round dude, you need to come back to earth.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 14:50:21 GMT -5
First off, you mentioning some dumb workout video with two dudes in yoga pants tickling each other means nothing. Doesn’t change the fact that N’Keal Harry couldn’t get open vs my grandmother. He had no ability to beat press coverage and get off the line with any sort of quickness and he couldn’t change direction without almost coming to a compete stop. I know it makes you upset that every time he’d be thoroughly covered by some third stringer you’d post his 40 time and we’d all laugh and call him the out of the league bust that he is, but you need to get over that. Maybe join a hot yoga class or something and workout with N’Keal…tell him how much you believe in his 40 time compared to weight ratio. As for Mac, his arm sucks. It’s no secret (well maybe to you)…tough to make “good decisions” when you throw the ball like someone coming off post opp anesthesia, as the ball is fluttering in the air like a soft fluffy pillow. You never did understand that. You really don’t understand this stuff, do you? You just puke up 40 times and think Bill Belichick is the reason we won for 20 years straight while we had the best QB of all time saving the day. And it hurts. I’m sorry but we’re past the point of you needing to get over it. Try to focus. Again... this is just another hyperbolic emotional outburst with no real substance. But we get it... everything BB left behind is horrible, talentless and bad so we should give Kraft and the collaboration station about a decade or so to fix it, and if they don't it will still be Bill's fault.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 14:46:56 GMT -5
Isn't a 6-3 fullback too tall? Jaheim Bell was measured twice, first at the combine, then at the FSU pro day... both times he measured 6'2" tall. He also played FB a large portion of his time in college at South Carolina, he rushed for more yards than had receiving yards his final season there. If he carves out a role, it will be as Freediro say... similar to what the 49ers do with Kyle Juszczyk. He's probably not going to rack up a ton of yardage, but he can still become very productive at that position.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 9:56:33 GMT -5
Jaheim Bell will be more productive than Baker, imo. Who's with me? Bell will be a fullback, Baker will be a WR… “production” will look completely different for both.
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Post by Wozzy on May 5, 2024 9:50:50 GMT -5
Wait, so someone that can’t lift like muscle head DK Metcalf is the formula you use to determine a guys ability to make it in the NFL? That’s laughable. Meanwhile you ignore his inability to run routes, get open, separate, and beat the press at the line…all because his draft measurables were good. It’s hilarious. You're the same guy that told us how good Mac Jones arm was for three years, ignoring his talent deficiencies…you can’t blame “heart”, or his work ethic on this one. No, N’Keal saying “I can’t” before he even tries to lift is why he failed. He’s soft. I told you how good Mac Jones arm talent was? That’s another lie by you… you’re on a roll. If you have to lie to push your nonsense it’s probably time to tap out. I said Mac’s arm is no less weak than Kirk Cousins or other similar QB’s… he didn’t fail because his arm wasn’t strong enough, he failed because he made stupid decisions. Again…you argued we had “no talent” back in 2014, 2016 and 2018. You said the defense was too old and slow. You blame “talent” or a lack of athleticism for everything, brains, execution, scheme or coaching… none of this matters at all. It’s a bad take but one we see often. Again… the negative nancy’s are unhinged and we have zero talent again… none.
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Post by Wozzy on May 4, 2024 9:30:27 GMT -5
Slye is a good player to bring in to push Ryland… similar to Folk but with a stronger leg. He hasn’t been consistent, but when he’s “on” he has been solid.
There’s no BB here to pressure the kicker in practice and build confidence, let’s see what the collaboration station can do as coaches.
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Post by Wozzy on May 4, 2024 9:26:05 GMT -5
The mere existence of Mac Jones didn’t ruin the culture, having an owner insist Mac Jones play when all his teammates and coaches plainly see that he suck’s is a morale killer.
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Post by Wozzy on May 4, 2024 8:57:57 GMT -5
spins. moves the goals posts. lies. changes the topic. post memes. Posts memes is right, beyond that you just described Rkarp.
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Post by Wozzy on May 4, 2024 8:55:45 GMT -5
So, are you saying that N’Keal Harry failed because he was mentally soft, but not for what he could NOT do on the football field…like cut, keep speed through his routes, release and get open, separate. Because you spent three years mentioning his wonderful measurables, and apparently that is measurable, yet he couldn’t do things on the field necessary to get open and produce. And you think that’s simply because of the non measurable compete in him? And now weight is irrelevant for an offensive lineman? That’s hilarious…coming for the measurable king. N’Keal isn’t missing some physical trait that allows him to compete, he doesn’t compete because he’s soft. We saw this predraft in that video of DK Metcalf and N’Keal lifting weights together. DK does pull-ups with weights tied to his waist then tells N’Keal to go and he basically says he can’t do it…. soft. He can’t play through small nicks and injuries… soft. The guy is built like Tarzan but plays like Jane. Strange isn’t undersized at 315 pounds, especially when he benched it 30 times exiting college and and squats the moon. That’s just dumb. And one knee injury doesn’t make him injury prone. Why don’t you tell us which offensive linemen and players don’t suck… that would be more reasonable than saying they all do. Course you said we had no talent in 2014, 2016 and 2018… so there’s that.
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Post by Wozzy on May 2, 2024 7:26:53 GMT -5
this OL is long on upside, but very short on actual production on Sept 1. looking at the list, nd the free agency decisions and draft choices that went into this group, they should be much, much better than they are today. honestly, the 2 best players currently, Andrews, who lets face it, is now on the ownside given age and wear and tear, and Onwenu, inarguably asked to play out of his best and natural position. the upside for Sow, J andrews and Mafi is evident, but only if they take to coaching and the new offensive scheme. Strange as posted, oft injured, a little undersized, and older. I am higher on Leverette than you, but I like the mauler in him. the team clearly like Okorfor more than you. Time will tell as it appears he will be needed. Anderson a long shot to make the roster? Young, inexperienced…. you just described every offensive position group on this team. It’s better to have raw talent and need to shape and mold it… then not have it at all.
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Post by Wozzy on May 2, 2024 7:23:52 GMT -5
If you want to go purely analytical, Cole Strange is in the 34th percentile for weight, 34th percentile for wingspan, 29th percentile for arm length, and 46th percentile for height (compared to offensive linemen). Out of 34 possible starts he has played in only 27 of them and will likely miss the first half of next season. He is the ultimate reach. You spent the entire draft weekend talking about reaches, and how we needed a left tackle…now you’re saying Anderson is good? Which is it? You spend too much time talking about draft measurables, you are the same guy that for three years told us how good N’Keal Harry was because he ran a good forty for his size, totally ignoring his release and inability to maintain speed in and out of his breaks. Or that he just flat could never get open and create any sort of separation. His weight is irrelevant when there are teams in the league with fat asses and no talent blobs running around… when the biggest guy in the league Trent Brown is a guy you were just criticizing because he gave up on a 3 win team midway through after he watched his position coach abandon his unit midseason. Cole Strange is ridiculously athletic, strong and weighs 310 pounds of lean muscle mass. If he can’t stay healthy going forward you can call him injury prone… not after one season where he tore a knee ligament after starting every game and playing the third most offensive snaps as a rookie. You didn’t like a guard at the end of the first round… oh well. I said I liked Calvin Anderson as an UDFA rookie back in 2019, I said last offseason when they were in the market for free agent tackles he was a name they should consider bringing in. Yeah, I like the player, but I also couldn’t predict a mystery illness that would knock him out the entire season and I can’t predict if he has been debilitated in anyway that might prevent him from playing at full strength this season. I wanted them to cover their bases by finding another option, he has position flexibility and can play anywhere on the line if healthy. I never told you N’Keal Harry was good, that’s a lie. I told you he was a good athlete and didn’t promise you results. Harry failed because he has no compete in him, he is mentally soft… and there’s no measurable for that. Saying “they suck” is just an emotional outburst by you… why they sucked matters. It had a lot more to do with simply having “no talent,” which is just a lazy take.
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Post by Wozzy on May 2, 2024 7:04:39 GMT -5
Pats/Kraft should hire you and Wolf should make sure he gives you his ear next year. I’m a Pats fan, I’d sit over their shoulder and point out stupidity before it happens for free. Just give me a voucher for a cheap hotel and a lunch of hot dog and chips.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 19:20:18 GMT -5
I think the issue some of us have, and it may be more of a rookie mistake by the collaboration, is that the a major solution was possibly there at pick 34 and they either overthought it or flat out overreacted to what other teams did. It was pointed out on sports talk radio that the picks they made in the 2nd and 3rd rounds seemed to be exceptionally reactionary to what had happened in the draft just before they made those picks. WRs were drafted at picks 28 (Xavier Worthy by KC), 31 (Ricky Pearsall by San Fran), 32 (Xavier Legette by Carolina), 33 (Keon Coleman by Buffalo) and 34 (Ladd McConkey by the Chargers in the pick acquired by the Pats). Instead of drafting one of the top remaining OT's left at pick 37, they saw the run on WRs and decided they better choose one now. And then at the end of the 2rd round/start of the 3rd, there was a run on OL (Patrick Paul, Blake Fisher, Roger Rosengarten, Kingsley Suamataia and Brandon Coleman) all taken between picks 55 and 67, and again decided they better grab one at pick 68. I'm sorry but I find it really hard to accept that the FO and Coaching Staff is that incompetent - they're capable of making mistakes but to suggest thay are that over their heads is unreasonable. I mean I don't doubt for a moment that talk radio put that out over the airwaves but their job is not to inform or enlighten. Their job is to incite reaction and they usually prey on emotions to do it.
You've seen the variety of opinions on what should be done that have popped up on this board over the past few months. Is it so hard to swallow that they had different priorities? The guys with the staff, budget, experience and time to thoroughly look at every aspect of the draft? The guys that have 1st hand knowledge of the needs of the team and the skinny on every player on the roster?
Again, you'll have to pardon me for taking their version of what happened last weekend over the guys selling soap on the radio and the fans on this forum.
Another thing - every pick in the draft except the 1sr overall pick, in some way is reactionary to the picks before them and by the second/third round they are exceptionally reactionary.
If they do suck it will show on the field given adequate time until then...we shall see.
What bostonsportsfan111 describes is the shared life experience of anyone who sat and watched the draft unfold. The trade down in second was brilliant, they probably could have done it again. They needed the best LT and WR available in the next two rounds, there were two blue chip tackles left, and two handful's worth of WR's. You take the player with the fewest options first, if nothing else you place a much larger premium on line play... that's what winners do.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 17:19:53 GMT -5
We can't just say they were the 32nd worst in offense last year without discussing and understanding why. First there was a mutiny at the very top, they wanted BB out year's ago when Mayo took the trip to the holy land. Pretty hard to dispute at this point, "documentary" and all. They didn't have a QB, and that alone is enough to make you a single digit win team. Also who insisted on Mac Jones, was that unanimous... I don't know? BB seemed to be rubbing it in at the end, playing Mac no matter what, even as he had 4 total meltdowns (benchings) week after week on national TV... vindictive almost. Why was the O-Line bad... coaching? The line coach bailed on the team midseason, and was teaching different concepts prior to that than the ones the team employed. We're not sure BB wanted to bring Obie in either. They were statistically better with Patricia the year before. Injury? Not once did they start their five best linemen in a single game, and they had the most different starting five lineups of any team in the league... yeah, they were injured. There's a big difference between having good talent but it was badly injured last season... to not having it at all. They're returning a lot of talented players. Even if Strange misses the start of the season, they should have 4 starting linemen between Andrews, Onwenu, Sow and either Jake Andrews or Mafi... five or six by the time Strange gets back healthy. Even the draftees and UDFA linemen they brought in are not worthless, they're good athletes though none of them are great, there may be a technician in there that plays above himself and contributes. My biggest gripe of all the rookie O-Linemen is they need to get stronger, which usually means contributing in year two not one. I may be wrong on some, as some didn't bench. Okorafor might be what they wanted Vederian Lowe to be but couldn't, a guy who was really wide and simply didn't allow sacks... even if he gives you nothing in the run game... you can work around it. Left tackle needs to be sorted out, but at least they have average/good options to get by. 4 out of 5 good linemen can be a very good line as long as you provide that left tackle blocking help. Anderson, Okorafor, Wheatley, Wallace, hell they might try Sow out at left tackle. Jake Andrews is the backup center, he was a plus athlete and great prospect in last year's draft. We'll see if he and the rest of last year's rookie linemen put in the work this offseason. I wanted one blue chip left tackle in the 2nd round or free agency... and didn't get either. Oh well, it's a talented team across the board either way, young and inexperienced but talented. With the benefit of a great defense and health they can be a dangerous team. In my opinion, left tackle was the number one priority heading into free agency two years ago, they came away with virtually nothing except that washed up player that used to play for Chicago and was it Arizona?? They had money to spend, they brought in no one to play left tackle and instead made the HUGE mistake of keeping lazy nut job Trent Brown. That’s on the GM. That, along with other decisions is why he is no longer working in the NFL. They need a center, Andrew’s looks washed, and I don’t blame him one bit. You just spent an entire weekend talking about the need for a left tackle and now you’re telling me Anderson, Okorafor, Wheatley, Wallace, Sow, are good options? And let’s talk about Mr. Strange, he wasn’t exactly considered “doing well” before he ripped up his knee. Injuries happen, this guy faught through injuries almost everyday since he was drafted, probably because he was undersized and a reach when they selected him…I still remember the tape from the senior bowl practices. My lord! Tossed around and manhandled like a rag doll. Never should have been a first round pick…he may be the first first round pick to ever become a national joke…I’ll never forget McVay laughing his ass off about us reaching for this guy. And speaking of reaches, we’re going to criticize this years reaches?? Christ, Bill Belichick invented reaching. If you look up “reach” in the dictionary there’s a phot of Belichick’s elbow and shoulder. And yes, they didn’t have a QB…actually never did have one since they let Tom Brady walk out the door freely four years ago. And here we are again selecting another in the first round, where he will get 3-4 years to prove himself. Bill drafted Mac Jones. Another BUST. Probably the biggest bust of them all. This is an emotional outburst above but there's not much in response to the analytical and objective analysis I provided above. I left my response to you in the body of this for that reason. Here's the depth chart, I cut the trash out and left what I consider are the great to good players or players who will make the 53 man roster barring injury. LT – Calvin Anderson, Chukwuma Okorafor, Zuri Henry (PS), LG – Antonio Mafi, Cole Strange (PUP), C – David Andrews, Jake Andrews, Layden Robinson, Charles Turner (PS), RG – Sidy Sow, RT – Michael Onwenu, Caedan Wallace, Tyrone Wheatley (PS),Based on my grading system (or RAS) the players in dark blue represent very good to great athletes, the light blue represent at least a good athlete or partial workout, purple represents player who didn't workout at all so I have no clue. Okorafor is the only average/bad athlete amongst the group. I already cut Michael Jordan, Leverett and the rest of the crap out. Strange has played very well when healthy, he went through some rookie trials in the first half of 2022 then straightened out to play his best ball in the second half of the season.Strange is undersized? He weighs 310 pounds and pushes up some of the heaviest weights on the team, he benched it 30 times exiting college... laughable. He was playing on one leg last year, he hurt his knee exiting preseason. There's a great video breaking down Strange's rookie season and his second half resurgence. So yes, I believe there are a lot of good options here if everyone is healthy and despite the fact Strange probably won't be healthy to start the season. Mafi and Jake Andrews got a lot of important reps last year and the rookies they brought in as rookies this year have some value, they're not worthless. And I'll say this to you and anyone else who thinks Strange has played poorly, the number of BB haters is vast and the critics of the Strange draft pick legion... surely there must be a YouTube video of Cole Strange lowlights that show him getting abused by defenders... right? Go ahead and find that video and post it here... we'll be waiting a long time.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 16:59:32 GMT -5
why haven't you learned from the situation here the past 2 seasons? bad coaching creates bad play, not necessarily bad players. Okorfor might benefit from a change in scheme, a change in coaching or a change of scenery may be a wake up call for him. the guy was the 92nd player chosen in his draft year. he has 59 career nfl starts he would seem a better option than Lowe, Wheatley, Stubber. The past two seasons..? You can't even admit Kraft created the collaboration station in 2021 and has been cutting the legs out from under the guy he hired to run his team. Bad coaching creates bad play, great coaching can't make bad players play well or magically become great athletes. Okorafor is a bad/average athlete with really long arms... he's Vederian Lowe. Mac has 42 starts, he sucks, Law Firm had 51 starts, he wasn't very good... a bad player getting way too many opportunities to start is not validation of them as a player. He will be similar to Lowe, the rest of the line should play a lot better though if they stay healthy. Wheatley is a mystery until we see him play, if we ever do. None of this matters if there were better players available for similar or less money. Oli Udoh: 1 yr(s) / $2,000,000 Yosh Nijman: 1 yr(s) / $4,304,000 Andrus Peat: Still un-signed Chuka Okorafor: 1 yr(s) / $4,000,000
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 10:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 10:25:38 GMT -5
You could be right but to me they are just jags and one is a LG pressed into emergency service as LT, the other two have poor AV, but could develop no one knows for sure, the guys coming off injuries are old- beyond prove it deals - I see no difference between your suggestions and what they did, except cost. Okorafor imo is better or equal to all your suggestions yet you've hung your hat on a reason he was released that I haven't heard anywhere else. The bottom line is that you're shining light on your opinions on the matter and I'm shining light on mine. We'll have to agree to disagree and let the season show who was closer to being right. And even then we might not know until November 2025, how they truly did this off season. Lawrence Guy was considered a jag by a large portion of the NFL when the Patriots went after him. Just like the guys I mentioned at offensive tackle, he was a 7th round developmental pick who stuck on rosters and worked his butt off for opportunities and playing time, he earned every inch. The Patriots signed him to a two year deal, like most of these tackles I mentioned did, two years later the Pats gave him a lucrative four year contract. What Guy had in common with all the tackles I mentioned above was athleticism, good tools, previous money earned has nothing at all to do with the true value of a player. These tackles I mentioned also did what Guy did in the two years proceeding his joining the Patriots, he played well when pressed into duty. The tackle examples I provided played well in starts with their own teams and came from really good offensive lines... places where it is tough to succeed because the players around you are so good and competition is high. Okorafor came from a terrible offensive line, they hadn't been good for years... and Pittsburgh didn't want him even though they had money to burn. Wolf rushed to sign this guy... that concerns me as a Patriot's fan.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 10:17:59 GMT -5
Steelers also gave up on Mike Vrabel…while I do agree with you, I am willing to trust/live with this situation for one year. The 2001 Steelers had a bunch of really good and expensive LB'ers already when the Patriots offered more money than Pittsburgh could afford for Vrabel. The current Steelers were desperate for good offensive lineman, had gobs of cap space, yet still chose to let Okorafor go. My problem also is that BB looked towards Pittsburgh back in 2001 for free agent LB'ers, he looked to a team that was really deep with LB talent. The Patriots in 2024 looked to one of the worst offensive lines in the league for their tackle free agent. Every free agent OT I offered up this offseason as an option came from a great program, bad units are usually made up of bad players and vice versa. I don't look to bad teams and bad units for answers.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 8:39:14 GMT -5
obviously they are evaluating differently than you clearly they see the players they brought in as upgrades to what was here, and see players that have upside in the system they plan to play, and the coaching they now have in the building it also seems clear the team saw "playmakers" as a much greater need than OT. A bad player is a bad player, Pittsburgh gave up on Okorafor because he never improved. If the collaboration station value “bad” as “good” that’s a problem. They could have had the same exact playmakers and a left tackle… but they botched free agency and the draft regarding left tackle.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 8:32:49 GMT -5
I guess you choose to disregard that I said "might" be better I think they will. I disregard a lot of what you say because history has proven you say a lot of silly things.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 8:31:35 GMT -5
Nah - it's not a "now" league as much as it's a "now" fan base in New England. It's only a real now situation if the owner says so and it seems Kraft is ok with methodical for the time being. You're 100% right about the way injuries can affect the plan but I'm not sure how that is especially pertinent in this case. I also agree that LT is the 2nd most important offensive position on the team after the QB. I wanted Alt at 3 for a long time. I do object to the unit of measure being how much was spent on filling the need. Money or draft capital spent on a player doesn't guarantee success. in FA the best LT's were resigned by their original teams and the ones that were left were old, coming off injuries or not scheme friendly (or combinations of those things) - I didn't see anyone worth a big pay day - I'd ask, why is the best these saviors could squirrel out of FA were one year deals? The draft had two LT's that were more than prospects and most of the really good prospects were gone way too early. And lastly, FA's have to want to sign here and to trade into earlier draft spots require teams that are willing. In short you just can't go to CVS and pick up a quality left tackle - no matter how much capital you have. If there was a quality LT that would have fit in on a 1 or 2 year deal - then yes, pay them 15m to 18m per to come fill the gap. I just don't see that player having been available yet.
And I don't even see anyone making the case for one...just a lot of disgruntled vagueness.
I provided three specific names of LT’s they could have signed instead… nothing vague about this at all. In years past BB signed these guys who only got one or two year deals like Lawrence Guy and these players went on to become major contributors on winning teams. We’ve always referred to these guys as “value vets.” The 2001 championship team was patched together with a large gaggle of these guys. Why they only got short term deals all differ. Mainly guys that fall into this category do so because their original team found them as late round picks, developmental players and even UDFA’s. Over time these players grew and developed into solid NFL players. Very often they became available because new regimes didn’t value them as much, or some are coming off injury and took a one year “show me” deal to hopefully make a big payday next season. It doesn’t make them bad or lesser players, especially since they played well previously when given a chance.
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Post by Wozzy on May 1, 2024 8:15:02 GMT -5
seems unlikely the Pats bite on any however. they have the money why? Why did they make Okorafor a priority signing? Why reach for Wallace and Layden later? I question their ability to evaluate OL and build a team… hope I’m wrong.
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