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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 9:19:12 GMT -5
Peyton Manning threw 28 INT's his rookie year? 56% completions?
I am down for Maye to do that and get over it and on to bigger things.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 26, 2024 9:20:12 GMT -5
Yes. Always play to win. But don't cut corners to win. Maye needs EXPERIENCE sooner rather than later for the long term benefit of the franchise. Sitting behind Brissett and watching how the job is done properly is experience.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 9:21:55 GMT -5
Yes. Always play to win. But don't cut corners to win. Maye needs EXPERIENCE sooner rather than later for the long term benefit of the franchise. Sitting behind Brissett and watching how the job is done properly is experience. Brissett should be QB#2
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 9:23:47 GMT -5
You don't sit pick #3's.
It's that simple.
Pick #10, maybe
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Post by lowfbiq on Apr 26, 2024 9:25:25 GMT -5
The only real option isn't even listed as an option. You play him when you feel he is ready because once you make the decision you make it and don't look back. If he wins the job and you feel he is ready day 1, it he does not win the job and doesn't earn your confidence till 2 years from now, it will be what it will be. You do not circle a date or game.
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Post by TFB12 on Apr 26, 2024 9:25:35 GMT -5
Earliest you play Maye is halfway through the season, depending on how Jacoby does. If Jacoby is playing well, let Maye continue to sit and learn and develop. I’m confident, this Patriots team will know how to handle Maye and the QB position, and that’s why Bill Belichick is no longer here.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 9:27:39 GMT -5
The only real option isn't even listed as an option. You play him when you feel he is ready because once you make the decision you make it and don't look back. If he wins the job and you feel he is ready day 1, it he does not win the job and doesn't earn your confidence till 2 years from now, it will be what it will be. You do not circle a date or game. Then they fvcked up. #3's play right away. Research it.
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Post by carawaydj on Apr 26, 2024 9:29:57 GMT -5
The only real option isn't even listed as an option. You play him when you feel he is ready because once you make the decision you make it and don't look back. If he wins the job and you feel he is ready day 1, it he does not win the job and doesn't earn your confidence till 2 years from now, it will be what it will be. You do not circle a date or game. Then they fvcked up. #3's play right away. Research it. Is this like an actual law?
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Post by mbeaulieu07 on Apr 26, 2024 9:31:44 GMT -5
The only real option isn't even listed as an option. You play him when you feel he is ready because once you make the decision you make it and don't look back. If he wins the job and you feel he is ready day 1, it he does not win the job and doesn't earn your confidence till 2 years from now, it will be what it will be. You do not circle a date or game. Then they fvcked up. #3's play right away. Research it. I care more about what Maye is doing in year three, than I do about what he's doing of week three (in year one).
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 9:32:02 GMT -5
Then they fvcked up. #3's play right away. Research it. Is this like an actual law? Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out?
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Post by backto1992 on Apr 26, 2024 9:38:18 GMT -5
I do believe Brissett is a legit starter. they are also paying him $8m. imo, the job is his until Maye takes it from him. Maye has played 26 games in college. he struggled in many of them. Maye is 21 yeas old. the team drafted for upside and will have patience. I do not see a day 1 starter in Maye, but I do see someone with the physical tools to be a star. [br The only defense of this pick is potential ‘upside’, as his tape is poor One other meaningful consideration is Eliot Wolf comes from the Green Bay culture, where there was no immediate urgency to play Rodgers over Farve, and they gave Love plenty of time on the pine before moving on from Rodgers Unless Brissett completely falls apart this year (and what would that even look like on a bad team), Maye is sitting
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Post by carawaydj on Apr 26, 2024 9:42:09 GMT -5
Is this like an actual law? Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? Are you serious? If I knew where you lived I'd be showing up at your door in a few with a case of beer. A beer intervention. Always helps.
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Post by section136 on Apr 26, 2024 10:30:15 GMT -5
Is this like an actual law? Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? Franchises that know what they are doing very rarely are picking at #3. Bad teams with clown car coaching and personnel staffs who are desperate to gain relevance generally pick in that spot. What kind of decisions do you suppose franchises like that make?
The logic that Lance sucks because he wasn't started right away has me utterly baffled, of all the factors involved in the success of a prospect, that conclusion wouldn't have even been on my radar.
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Post by CWTB on Apr 26, 2024 10:34:29 GMT -5
Aikman sat then went 0-11, he said best experience there is. You learn nothing on the bench. I'm for 8 games, and put him out there. 3rd overall pick. Today they don't hit like Aikman's day. Game today almost flag for QB's.
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Post by Wozzy on Apr 26, 2024 10:46:13 GMT -5
You don't sit pick #3's. It's that simple. Pick #10, maybe This is nonsense.
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Post by backbay on Apr 26, 2024 11:37:27 GMT -5
Mayo: Best players will play. Mayo On Drafting Maye and Play Time0:05:00 Mayo Best players will play. It's going to take time. Brissett's job is to mentor Maye; until Maye beats him out.
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Post by PatsFanInExile on Apr 26, 2024 12:22:23 GMT -5
I don’t side with those criticizing BB for his comments about Maye’s footwork. BB knows footwork. He coached Maroney. That guy was a veritable Dancing Queen.
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Post by michiganadam on Apr 26, 2024 12:32:28 GMT -5
You don't sit pick #3's. It's that simple. Pick #10, maybe You don't throw your potentially franchise qb into an offense with a suspect o line, questionable receivers, new offense to him and team with a few items of his , and a capable
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Post by michiganadam on Apr 26, 2024 12:33:52 GMT -5
You don't sit pick #3's. It's that simple. Pick #10, maybe You don't throw your potentially franchise qb into an offense with a suspect o line, questionable receivers, new offense to him and team with a few items of his fundamentals in need of work with a capable vet ready to go. Just dumb. That's how we ruined mac.
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 12:35:57 GMT -5
You don't throw your potentially franchise qb into an offense with a suspect o line, questionable receivers, new offense to him and team with a few items of his fundamentals in need of work with a capable vet ready to go. Just dumb. That's how we ruined mac. Mac was fools gold. It wasn’t until they looked deeper that everyone realized he was the qb equivalent of pyrite.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 12:37:31 GMT -5
You don't sit pick #3's. It's that simple. Pick #10, maybe You don't throw your potentially franchise qb into an offense with a suspect o line, questionable receivers, new offense to him and team with a few items of his , and a capable Again, Bledsoe had it worse. Much, much worse.
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Post by patslifer on Apr 26, 2024 12:39:11 GMT -5
Is this like an actual law? Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? Right. And there's a laundry list of players who probably started too early. I'm with Low. You start him when he is ready and not a game sooner. No need to circle a date or a game. He's going to have to get acclimated to the speed of the NFL. The knock on him is his ability to adjust at the line. He is going to have to upgrade his processor and that comes with time.
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Post by backbay on Apr 26, 2024 13:07:14 GMT -5
Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? Right. And there's a laundry list of players who probably started too early. I'm with Low. You start him when he is ready and not a game sooner. No need to circle a date or a game. He's going to have to get acclimated to the speed of the NFL. The knock on him is his ability to adjust at the line. He is going to have to upgrade his processor and that comes with time. It all starts with a plan to develop Maye. Plans usually have achievable goals with deadlines. Maye has to compete with Brissett if he wants to become a starter. That goal of starting is dependent on how his developmental plan progresses and unfolds. Deadlines are moved forward or backward depending on actual outcome. So, when he is close to being "even" with Brissett - then yeah, play him in real games so that he can continue improving.
It's not going to happen overnight.
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Post by freediro on Apr 26, 2024 14:35:00 GMT -5
Right. And there's a laundry list of players who probably started too early. I'm with Low. You start him when he is ready and not a game sooner. No need to circle a date or a game. He's going to have to get acclimated to the speed of the NFL. The knock on him is his ability to adjust at the line. He is going to have to upgrade his processor and that comes with time. It all starts with a plan to develop Maye. Plans usually have achievable goals with deadlines. Maye has to compete with Brissett if he wants to become a starter. That goal of starting is dependent on how his developmental plan progresses and unfolds. Deadlines are moved forward or backward depending on actual outcome. So, when he is close to being "even" with Brissett - then yeah, play him in real games so that he can continue improving.
It's not going to happen overnight.
100% this from patslifer and backbay, end of discussion.
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Post by texaspat on Apr 26, 2024 15:08:07 GMT -5
Then why pick him, the 3# pick is MAJOR draft capital. in hindsight, Patriots obviously didn't get a big bag offer... As always, it's a gamble on a quarterback. Dan Marino had 5 other quarterbacks taken ahead of him, including Kenny O'Brien, Todd Blackledge and Tony Eason. We all know the story about Tom #199 Terrific. Aaron Rodgers fell from the consensus #1 overall selection to going late in the first round to Green Bay. Joe Montana I believe went in round 3. When it comes to drafting a franchise quarterback, you just don't know. The only thing you know is that you need to find one.
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