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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 26, 2024 16:18:04 GMT -5
I believe the older NFL insiders who say no rookie QB is NFL ready on day 1.
Mayo should be fired if he makes Maye start right out of the gate. I am saying under no circumstances should Maye start on week 1, even if Brissett unexpectedly gets injured.
That said, unless Brissett is on fire, I do think they should start Maye this season, but not before the bye. They need to see how he processes the field, so they can actually coach him to improve. That needs to happen before the start of 2025 season.
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 26, 2024 16:25:44 GMT -5
They should trade him while he still has any value. 😂 Nooooooooooooo..............................lol That was me last night……minus the laughter.
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Post by ATJ on Apr 26, 2024 16:33:37 GMT -5
Start Brissett, let Maye man that clipboard and soak up every bit of knowledge he can. Coach the hell out of him and get him ready for when he is ready.
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Post by wonderdrums on Apr 26, 2024 16:35:49 GMT -5
we saw last year what bad OL play and WR's not on the same page can do to a QB don't let that happen again at any cost, or people will be fired We also saw last year what crappy QB play can do to a team. Am hopeful that Maye will eventually be a great QB. They could have drafted a great player instead of drafting a guy they hope is great. Thats my only issue with the selection. Aside from that, I understand the principle of why they selected Maye. I have no choice but to root for him now. I hope they keep their selections moving forward and not try to gather more selections. It’s not often they draft in the top three of every round. I’d like to see them utilize those picks.
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Post by jri37 on Apr 26, 2024 16:36:43 GMT -5
They just picked the #3 player in the draft and you want him to sit? How are they going to know if they have Bryce Young or Marcus Stroud?
It has been a looooooong time since they drafted this high so I think as a fan base we don’t understand how much of an impact a pick this high has to make right away.
If I have time I might do it but without looking I bet 90-95 percent of the players taken over the last 10 years in the top 3 played right away.
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Post by seattlepat2016 on Apr 26, 2024 16:46:47 GMT -5
Start Brissett, let Maye man that clipboard and soak up every bit of knowledge he can. Coach the hell out of him and get him ready for when he is ready. I disagree. IMO they should see how he does playing NFL game speed, before the start of the 2025 season.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 16:55:40 GMT -5
Start Brissett, let Maye man that clipboard and soak up every bit of knowledge he can. Coach the hell out of him and get him ready for when he is ready. If you picked a guy at #3 that can't start YOU FVCKED UP The Niners fvcked up when they took Lance at #3!
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 17:03:24 GMT -5
Start Brissett, let Maye man that clipboard and soak up every bit of knowledge he can. Coach the hell out of him and get him ready for when he is ready. If you picked a guy at #3 that can't start YOU FVCKED UP The Niners fvcked up when they took Lance at #3! This is a bad take. He’ll start when he’s ready. Eli manning was the first pick overall and didn’t start until week 10. Phillip rivers was the player eli was traded for and 4th pick overall and it wasn’t until year 3 that he started. Drew Brees, Brady, Carson Palmer (1st overall), Michael Vick (1st overall), and Mahomes (10th overall) didn’t start until their second year. The list goes on, but here is a link to examples between 2000 and 2019: www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/history-of-nfl-qbs-waiting-to-start-heres-what-stats-since-2000-say-about-when-theyll-most-likely-succeed/
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 17:10:09 GMT -5
If you picked a guy at #3 that can't start YOU FVCKED UP The Niners fvcked up when they took Lance at #3! This is a bad take. He’ll start when he’s ready. Eli manning was the first pick overall and didn’t start until week 10. Phillip rivers was the player eli was traded for and 4th pick overall and it wasn’t until year 3 that he started. Drew Brees, Brady, Carson Palmer (1st overall), Michael Vick (1st overall), and Mahomes (10th overall) didn’t start until their second year. The list goes on, but here is a link to examples between 2000 and 2019: www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/history-of-nfl-qbs-waiting-to-start-heres-what-stats-since-2000-say-about-when-theyll-most-likely-succeed/Anthony Richardson pick #4 last year, started right away.
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 17:20:11 GMT -5
Anthony Richardson pick #4 last year, started right away. And wasn’t ready and got hurt.. Look at that link. Players who sit historically perform better long term.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 17:27:34 GMT -5
Anthony Richardson pick #4 last year, started right away. And wasn’t ready and got hurt.. Look at that link. Players who sit historically perform better long term. Like Bledsoe and Marino and Peyton Manning?
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 17:29:49 GMT -5
And wasn’t ready and got hurt.. Look at that link. Players who sit historically perform better long term. Like Bledsoe and Marino and Peyton Manning? Marino didn’t start until week 5.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 17:30:34 GMT -5
Like Bledsoe and Marino and Peyton Manning? Marino didn’t start until week 5. Close enough He also wasn't top 3 Pick 27!
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 17:31:21 GMT -5
And wasn’t ready and got hurt.. Look at that link. Players who sit historically perform better long term. Like Bledsoe and Marino and Peyton Manning? Manning and bledsoe performed badly their first year. Sitting may have helped them. Did you read the article I posted?
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 17:33:44 GMT -5
Like Bledsoe and Marino and Peyton Manning? Manning and bledsoe performed badly their first year. Sitting may have helped them. Did you read the article I posted? No. I've been following the NFL long enough. I'll check it out when I have time The subject is sitting a top 3 player, not sitting QB'S in general
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Post by squishthefish on Apr 26, 2024 17:45:33 GMT -5
Manning and bledsoe performed badly their first year. Sitting may have helped them. Did you read the article I posted? No. I've been following the NFL long enough. I'll check it out when I have time The subject is sitting a top 3 player, not sitting QB'S in general But you are talking about a qb.. There is no one expecting maye to play any other position and that article specifically talks about and compares the results of qbs from 2000-2019 starting immediately, starting later in year 1, year 2, 3, 4 etc.
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 17:48:41 GMT -5
No. I've been following the NFL long enough. I'll check it out when I have time The subject is sitting a top 3 player, not sitting QB'S in general But you are talking about a qb.. There is no one expecting maye to play any other position and that article specifically talks about and compares the results of qbs from 2000-2019 starting immediately, starting later in year 1, year 2, 3, 4 etc. Any player any position in the top 5 of an NFL draft should be startable. That should not be debatable
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Post by thejuice on Apr 26, 2024 17:50:38 GMT -5
They just used the #3 pick in the draft and they aren’t going to play him? There is no Aaron Rogers playing in front of him. He is now your marquee player he better play or they should have taken someone else. It's not about who's playing in front of him, it's about making sure you develop him properly now that he's here. We've seen QB's redshirt their first year and its worked wonders for them. Maye is 21. If he becomes a superstar because you didn't throw him to the wolves immediately his first year then that's all that matters. Plus putting Jacoby out there allows him to see first-hand how a real pro manages being a starting QB in the NFL. Brissett is a guy who understands why he's here and he's going to help guide Maye along. Draft your starting LT and top receiver in the next couple of picks, let them develop and when Maye is ready to take over (whether that's 8 games in or next season) the offense will be in better shape and ready for him to start off on the right foot rather than just throwing him out there because they get too antsy. That being said, you also don't shut the door completely. If he defies all expectations and comes in immediately and looks great, then sure start him. But there should be no pressure to do so. We gotta get this right, whatever path that may be. bingo. you nailed it. spot on.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 26, 2024 17:51:50 GMT -5
Is this like an actual law? Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? yeah, great example. clearly the niners have no clue what they are doing or how to build a good franchise
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 18:04:40 GMT -5
Yes. For franchises that know what the hell they are doing. Trey Lance didn't start. How did that work out? yeah, great example. clearly the niners have no clue what they are doing or how to build a good franchise So they made the right choice there? Why is he traded then?
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Post by thejuice on Apr 26, 2024 18:11:17 GMT -5
yeah, great example. clearly the niners have no clue what they are doing or how to build a good franchise So they made the right choice there? Why is he traded then? no the trade and selection of lance was dead wrong as it turned out. but so is your take in saying that the niners dont know what they are doing.... which is essentially what you said. thats asinine. they clearly know how to build a good franchise... but yeah as is the case with the huge whiff on lance, no one is perfect, nor should they be expected to be anywhere close
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Post by DaPatriots on Apr 26, 2024 18:12:40 GMT -5
So they made the right choice there? Why is he traded then? no the trade and selection of lance was dead wrong as it turned out. but so is your take in saying that the niners dont know what they are doing. Never said that. In that individual case, they didn't know what they were doing.
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Post by garytx on Apr 26, 2024 18:15:41 GMT -5
They just picked the #3 player in the draft and you want him to sit? How are they going to know if they have Bryce Young or Marcus Stroud? It has been a looooooong time since they drafted this high so I think as a fan base we don’t understand how much of an impact a pick this high has to make right away. If I have time I might do it but without looking I bet 90-95 percent of the players taken over the last 10 years in the top 3 played right away. In all honestly Maye needs some time. What's great about him is he has the tools which cannot be taught. His shortcomings can be fixed though. You have to have patience. This guy isn't close to ready on leading an NFL offense. You play him now and he's done, ruined.
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Post by ATJ on Apr 26, 2024 18:18:25 GMT -5
Apparently it is a source of discomfort that I believe that Maye would benefit from watching and learning from a proven professional (Note that I didn't call him a superstar).
How unfortunate that your guy didn’t get picked by the Pats.
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Post by thejuice on Apr 26, 2024 18:18:42 GMT -5
no the trade and selection of lance was dead wrong as it turned out. but so is your take in saying that the niners dont know what they are doing. Never said that. In that individual case, they didn't know what they were doing. you didnt say exactly that, but sure implied it.
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