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Post by salcon on Oct 18, 2021 8:22:06 GMT -5
Lost all faith in the team??? Then stop watching, stop posting, and go away. You're not getting a trophy this year. Spoiled whining cry-babies.....SMH This is what some seem to not understand. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you lost faith in the team then find another you have 'faith' in and stop trolling this site.
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Post by ATJ on Oct 18, 2021 8:22:11 GMT -5
Reading some of the posts in the forum this morning leads me to speculate on what it would have been like (had the forum existed) during some of the grandiose 2-14 seasons (like '81 and '92) or the wondrous 1-15 season in 1990 under Rod Rust. But I guess it's all in your perspective.
As I said elsewhere, I see reasons for optimism and, yes, there have been some crap plays out there but there have been some absolutely superb ones as well.
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Post by zenape on Oct 18, 2021 8:22:13 GMT -5
1. It didn't work out as planned, that sometimes happens. 2. Because other veteran players (High/Van) aren't playing up to expectations. 3. Leadership. 4. Whiffs. Anyone who has ever stepped up to the plate or draft board in this case, has had them. 5. Money frees up when money frees up. Players become available when they become available. It's all a matter of timing.
We are in a rebuild, BUT, it should be noted that BB is always going to try and win games. That's just who he is, and he is never going to be the type of guy to Suck for Luck so to speak. Let's not forget that BB came into this season thinking what he was going to do to help Cam win more games. If things had gone the way BB fully expected them to, Jones would be getting groomed for next year right now while holding a clipboard. That's my opinion anyway.
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Post by salcon on Oct 18, 2021 8:27:29 GMT -5
1. It didn't work out as planned, that sometimes happens. 2. Because other veteran players (High/Van) aren't playing up to expectations. 3. Leadership. 4. Whiffs. Anyone who has ever stepped up to the plate or draft board in this case, has had them. 5. Money frees up when money frees up. Players become available when they become available. It's all a matter of timing. We are in a rebuild, BUT, it should be noted that BB is always going to try and win games. That's just who he is, and he is never going to be the type of guy to Suck for Luck so to speak. Let's not forget that BB came into this season thinking what he was going to do to help Cam win more games. If things had gone the way BB fully expected them to, Jones would be getting groomed for next year right now while holding a clipboard. That's my opinion anyway. I'm happy Jones beat out Cam for the starting job. It puts him ahead of the learning curve with him playing now and he appears up to the task. I don't think he stood to learn a thing sitting behind Cam. Tom Brady maybe but not Cam.
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 18, 2021 8:28:26 GMT -5
I'm tired of settling for "moral victories". They're meaningless. A loss is a loss. It is. A loss is indeed a loss. But what people are calling "moral victories" is really nothing more than fans metering their emotions based on how bad a loss looked. I don't think that's wrong or incorrect. In fact, I find it bizarre when fans are equally upset over all losses. Some losses are fugly. Some are close, hard-fought games. Some are blowouts. Some are against sucky teams. Some are against the best teams. IMHO, feeling different about those types of losses is a sign of a healthy rational mind lol.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 18, 2021 8:30:50 GMT -5
I do not find posters here weak of heart. as more and more posters come to the conclusion you have, the forum should be a place to discuss how best to accelerate the rebuild, and to aim for SB's. you ask fellow posters to jump the F off. most of us will not. we will post here what we believe would fix this teams issues. what will fix them in your opinion?
Time and patience. Time we have. Patience is something a lot of fans of today's 'instant gratification' generation don't have. If you don't have it then you can fvck off! I disagree not making changes will doom this team the team needs to better their talent thru the draft. finding help in that area should be step 1. the team will be/could be in their best position for the draft in decades. they need to hit on this next draft BIG!
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Post by rkarp on Oct 18, 2021 8:32:01 GMT -5
1. It didn't work out as planned, that sometimes happens. 2. Because other veteran players (High/Van) aren't playing up to expectations. 3. Leadership. 4. Whiffs. Anyone who has ever stepped up to the plate or draft board in this case, has had them. 5. Money frees up when money frees up. Players become available when they become available. It's all a matter of timing. We are in a rebuild, BUT, it should be noted that BB is always going to try and win games. That's just who he is, and he is never going to be the type of guy to Suck for Luck so to speak. Let's not forget that BB came into this season thinking what he was going to do to help Cam win more games. If things had gone the way BB fully expected them to, Jones would be getting groomed for next year right now while holding a clipboard. That's my opinion anyway. I'm happy Jones beat out Cam for the starting job. It puts him ahead of the learning curve with him playing now and he appears up to the task. I don't think he stood to learn a thing sitting behind Cam. Tom Brady maybe but not Cam. agree 1000% now lets do the same with Cajuste, Herron, Uche, WIno, Asiasi, etc
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Post by salcon on Oct 18, 2021 8:45:21 GMT -5
Time and patience. Time we have. Patience is something a lot of fans of today's 'instant gratification' generation don't have. If you don't have it then you can fvck off! I disagree not making changes will doom this team the team needs to better their talent thru the draft. finding help in that area should be step 1. the team will be/could be in their best position for the draft in decades. they need to hit on this next draft BIG! Well, I didn't insinuate that there won't be some changes along the way. I believe mostly in the coaching ranks (not BB). I would start with the Special teams coach. I questioned the OL coaches ability but now with all the injuries that they are dealing with I don't think he's doing that bad of a job.
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Post by ATJ on Oct 18, 2021 9:23:53 GMT -5
Lost all faith in the team??? Then stop watching, stop posting, and go away. You're not getting a trophy this year. Spoiled whining cry-babies.....SMH The complete and total lack of sensitivity in your post is noted with concern and viewed with alarm. tsk tsk tsk
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Post by digger0862 on Oct 18, 2021 9:52:05 GMT -5
I agree but I also think there's more reason for optimism than there is for pessimism. Why? Mac Jones is getting killed because the OL sucks. The defense couldn't stop Dallas all day. When Dallas got stopped, they stopped themselves with penalties. Another blocked punt - right up the middle? Picking up a delay of game penalty right after a time out is truly Jetsonian stuff - and, on the next play came that back breaking pick six. You can be optimistic all you want - but I see an OL that can't protect its quarterback, can't punt block - and usually can't run block. On defense, I see a front 7 that still can't stop the run, and doesn't get consistent pressure on the opposing quarterback - along with a very mediocre secondary, that gets exposed against good teams. This team sucks - and the ray of hope it has, quarterback Mac Jones, is not going to survive much more of the pounding he's taking week after week. Why? Because despite all the warts which every team has they were in the game against one of the best teams right until the end. They just need to make a few more plays. And they will.
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Post by solly on Oct 18, 2021 9:58:38 GMT -5
Why? Mac Jones is getting killed because the OL sucks. The defense couldn't stop Dallas all day. When Dallas got stopped, they stopped themselves with penalties. Another blocked punt - right up the middle? Picking up a delay of game penalty right after a time out is truly Jetsonian stuff - and, on the next play came that back breaking pick six. You can be optimistic all you want - but I see an OL that can't protect its quarterback, can't punt block - and usually can't run block. On defense, I see a front 7 that still can't stop the run, and doesn't get consistent pressure on the opposing quarterback - along with a very mediocre secondary, that gets exposed against good teams. This team sucks - and the ray of hope it has, quarterback Mac Jones, is not going to survive much more of the pounding he's taking week after week. Why? Because despite all the warts which every team has they were in the game against one of the best teams right until the end. They just need to make a few more plays. And they will. I dont really understand this logic...They also shouldve lost to the texans...who are awful. Doesnt mean theyre as bad as that, but being in a competitive game with a good team doesnt mean theyre ready to take off either imo
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Post by backbay on Oct 18, 2021 10:34:16 GMT -5
It’s no big deal if op has lost “faith”. Maybe it is a slightly poor choice of word?
I don’t trust the OL to protect QB; although I hope that they will be able to sooner than later.
I don’t believe that the current WRs and TEs can fill massive void that Edelman and Gronk left behind. Red Zone offense still sucking the big one (although they moved up 2 slots after this last game)
The defense; collectively, have not met pre-season expectations of being a top 5 defense.
Op is just expressing his feelings. Doesn’t make him any less of a fan
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Post by texaspat on Oct 18, 2021 10:46:18 GMT -5
Why? Mac Jones is getting killed because the OL sucks. The defense couldn't stop Dallas all day. When Dallas got stopped, they stopped themselves with penalties. Another blocked punt - right up the middle? Picking up a delay of game penalty right after a time out is truly Jetsonian stuff - and, on the next play came that back breaking pick six. You can be optimistic all you want - but I see an OL that can't protect its quarterback, can't punt block - and usually can't run block. On defense, I see a front 7 that still can't stop the run, and doesn't get consistent pressure on the opposing quarterback - along with a very mediocre secondary, that gets exposed against good teams. This team sucks - and the ray of hope it has, quarterback Mac Jones, is not going to survive much more of the pounding he's taking week after week. well, you have changed your tune in a matter of a couple of days Typical Karpie BS. Did you read how I blasted the Patriots for their win in Houston? I've complained about the OL play for weeks - and about the defense having the same problems as last year. Blocked punts are inexcusable - especially when they come right up the the middle of the line. The defense couldn't stop the Dallas offense all day. Dallas stopped themselves with poor redzone play, and penalties...and Mac Jones got blasted again. How much more can he take?
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Post by tanbass on Oct 18, 2021 11:12:02 GMT -5
Lost all faith in the team??? Then stop watching, stop posting, and go away. You're not getting a trophy this year. Spoiled whining cry-babies.....SMH The complete and total lack of sensitivity in your post is noted with concern and viewed with alarm. tsk tsk tsk Not in the mood to hand out hugs today. 😆
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Post by patsfan2007 on Oct 18, 2021 11:30:18 GMT -5
Comment on what I see from the 2 factions:
1. No, the season is not over. And no the Patriots are not going to suck the rest of the year. We might even start a winning streak next week and go on to make the playoffs. 2. No, Mac does not walk on water and turn water into wine. He will not be the next Tom Brady. He will be Mac Jones, whatever that turns out to be. And yes, it is OK to criticize anyone on this team, including Mac and BB.
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Post by ATJ on Oct 18, 2021 11:41:51 GMT -5
The complete and total lack of sensitivity in your post is noted with concern and viewed with alarm. tsk tsk tsk Not in the mood to hand out hugs today. 😆 No hugs? You cruel bastage.
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Post by patmando on Oct 18, 2021 11:51:27 GMT -5
Lost all faith in the team??? Then stop watching, stop posting, and go away. You're not getting a trophy this year. Spoiled whining cry-babies.....SMH This is what some seem to not understand. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you lost faith in the team then find another you have 'faith' in and stop trolling this site. who the hell made you the admin? Talk about spoiled whiny cry baby. Someone says something you don’t like and you tell them to leave a place they have just as much right to be at as you. Hey man I don’t like what you said so I’m going to insult you now and tell you to leave!!!! Now that’s the very definition of entitlement!! It’s not YOUR forum. And your not the only one that does this 😵💫
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Post by TrueChamp on Oct 18, 2021 12:25:29 GMT -5
Comment on what I see from the 2 factions: 1. No, the season is not over. And no the Patriots are not going to suck the rest of the year. We might even start a winning streak next week and go on to make the playoffs. 2. No, Mac does not walk on water and turn water into wine. He will not be the next Tom Brady. He will be Mac Jones, whatever that turns out to be. And yes, it is OK to criticize anyone on this team, including Mac and BB. No no no no no NO. You do not criticize BB up in this MUTHAFKA! Excommunicado. We have posters on the game day thread actually talking about how Brady was rarely blamed for a loss when he should have been lol, but if you even mentiom some of the real reasons this team has struggled for 3 years(personnel and too many draft day misses) you hate the Patriots! Lol. Double standards all over.
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Post by carawaydj on Oct 18, 2021 12:29:38 GMT -5
Comment on what I see from the 2 factions: 1. No, the season is not over. And no the Patriots are not going to suck the rest of the year. We might even start a winning streak next week and go on to make the playoffs. 2. No, Mac does not walk on water and turn water into wine. He will not be the next Tom Brady. He will be Mac Jones, whatever that turns out to be. And yes, it is OK to criticize anyone on this team, including Mac and BB. No no no no no NO. You do not criticize BB up in this MUTHAFKA! Excommunicado. We have posters on the game day thread actually talking about how Brady was rarely blamed for a loss when he should have been lol, but if you even mentiom some of the real reasons this team has struggled for 3 years(personnel and too many draft day misses) you hate the Patriots! Lol. Double standards all over. I've criticized BB and the coaching and generally speaking, few give me grief over it. I have a theory, when you aren't over-the-top and posting about the same thing ad nauseam most people are just fine with it.
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Post by salcon on Oct 18, 2021 12:36:21 GMT -5
This is what some seem to not understand. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you lost faith in the team then find another you have 'faith' in and stop trolling this site. who the hell made you the admin? Talk about spoiled whiny cry baby. Someone says something you don’t like and you tell them to leave a place they have just as much right to be at as you. Hey man I don’t like what you said so I’m going to insult you now and tell you to leave!!!! Now that’s the very definition of entitlement!! It’s not YOUR forum. And your not the only one that does this 😵💫 GFY troll.
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Post by patmando on Oct 18, 2021 13:02:47 GMT -5
who the hell made you the admin? Talk about spoiled whiny cry baby. Someone says something you don’t like and you tell them to leave a place they have just as much right to be at as you. Hey man I don’t like what you said so I’m going to insult you now and tell you to leave!!!! Now that’s the very definition of entitlement!! It’s not YOUR forum. And your not the only one that does this 😵💫 GFY troll. telling it like it is. Now go back to trying to be an internet bully tough guy 😂
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Post by lowfbiq on Oct 18, 2021 14:04:53 GMT -5
So how many ended up turning their card in?
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Post by salcon on Oct 18, 2021 14:28:51 GMT -5
telling it like it is. Now go back to trying to be an internet bully tough guy 😂 That's what all you delusional fans on the forum say and are usually wrong especially in your case. I'm not the one being called out almost daily for posting dumb shit. Now I neither have the time to give nor the patience to converse with so-called fans like yourself. But by all means, carry on. We need the laughs here.
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Post by ncpatsfan1971 on Oct 18, 2021 15:33:03 GMT -5
Face it Patriot "fans" the dynasty is OVER. I was ready for it and it matters not who is responsible for it. Most level-headed fans knew it was going to end sooner or later. Now, we're just another team of 32 in the league trying to build toward a championship caliber team and that doesn't happen overnight. I don't like my team losing but I'm enjoying the process towards the goal of making it to and winning a Super Bowl again. That was an entertaining game yesterday unlike the days of old (pre dynasty) when the Pats were beaten like dusty rugs on a regular basis. It's not for the weak of heart so either man up or jump the fvck off. I do not find posters here weak of heart. as more and more posters come to the conclusion you have, the forum should be a place to discuss how best to accelerate the rebuild, and to aim for SB's. you ask fellow posters to jump the F off. most of us will not. we will post here what we believe would fix this teams issues. what will fix them in your opinion? Bullshit! How much influence do you think this forum has that would accelerate the rebuilding of the New England Patriots? Basically what we have is a split group between glass half full and glass half empty fans. We can piss into the wind all we want but we're not going to change anything on the Patriots - Only RK and BB can do this and will do it without our help. Thankfully, they've done a pretty good job with the team without our help so far.
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Post by rkarp on Oct 18, 2021 15:34:43 GMT -5
I do not find posters here weak of heart. as more and more posters come to the conclusion you have, the forum should be a place to discuss how best to accelerate the rebuild, and to aim for SB's. you ask fellow posters to jump the F off. most of us will not. we will post here what we believe would fix this teams issues. what will fix them in your opinion? Bullshit! How much influence do you think this forum has that would accelerate the rebuilding of the New England Patriots? Basically what we have is a split group between glass half full and glass half empty fans. We can piss into the wind all we want but we're not going to change anything on the Patriots - Only RK and BB can do this and will do it without our help. Thankfully, they've done a pretty good job with the team without our help so far. of course we won't but the point of this forum is to discuss how to improve the team, not tell everyone to f-off
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